WWJD?

8 Jul 2008 10:02 pm
karohemd: by LJ user gothindulgence (TV)
[personal profile] karohemd
Oh dear, Bonekickers didn't exactly have a promising start. I shall leave poking factual, historical and archaelogical holes (I'd rather have the Time Team than that lot dig up my garden) in it to others but WTF? Leaving just the "mediaeval mystery" part of it would have been OK but this modern "Holy War" rubbish was just utterly OTT. I expected something along the lines of the Da Vinci Code but compared to this, Brown's novel was a masterpiece. I'm someone who doesn't mind if (historical) accuracy and logic are sacrificed for story and entertainment but this was just risible. The average Point&Click adventure game (thinking mainly the Broken Sword series here) has better plot and puzzles than this.

"Now, please, please, please, for the love of Jehova, may we go to the pub?"

Date: 8/7/08 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wknoxwalker.livejournal.com
I was expecting it to be this cheesy and was well rewarded. It's going to be a weekly favorite..

Date: 8/7/08 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
I went in with low expectations but I wasn't rewarded. Maybe it's just because I loathe religious fanatics, especially Christians. I'm wondering if there will be any comment/denial/outrage from the church and religious organisations similar to what happened after the Da Vinci Code.

I think the problem is that they're trying to take themselves too seriously. There's some humour but it feels far too forced.

I currently don't mind that I'll miss next week's episode.
Edited Date: 8/7/08 11:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 9/7/08 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-malk.livejournal.com
I'm curious, is there a reason why Christian fanatics raise your ire more than any other breed of fanatic?

Date: 9/7/08 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wknoxwalker.livejournal.com
I'm looking forward to hearing feedback, (Radio4 - Sunday classic!), on this one. I really think there's going to be some upset people.

The whole show just seems to be a hodgepodge of ideas. Like somebody watched CSI, 24, Heros and then Time Team, in a marathon sitting - then wrote a series in their caffeine addled state.

Lots of interesting stuff - badly presented.

Date: 8/7/08 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elliphant.livejournal.com
Some nice archaeological details, I liked the z twist cloth but I know for a fact that cloth preserved by metal does not look like that.

Date: 8/7/08 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
How does the preservation work?

Date: 10/7/08 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elliphant.livejournal.com
Well cloth can be preserved by metal in two ways. It can either be replaced by minerals leached out of the metal or preserved by making an imprint on the rust. The cloth itself is not preserved as a peice of fabric but you can tell details like thread count, spinning direction (Z or S), the type of weave (twill, herringbone etc) coarseness of the fabric.

Normally preserved on weapons, chainmail, jewellery or other grave goods.

Alternatively I can be presreved in a waterlogged environment. Bonekickers had neither.

Date: 10/7/08 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
Interesting, thanks!

Date: 8/7/08 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzerain.livejournal.com
I think by that point I was already on the floor laughing at the props department...

Date: 8/7/08 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eggwhite.livejournal.com
I thought it was quite entertaining in a "check brain at door" kind of way.

It seemed like a nice enough idea, but a completely hamfisted execution. The right wing religious nutjob clearly ran out of scenery in the first five minutes and progressed to chewing up the studio and several nearby towns.

Having said all that, though, I thought the origin of the modern day templar kids was a refreshing change... They could so easily have taken a much more hackneyed approach with that one...

Date: 8/7/08 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
I did check my brain at the door but I think it was mainly the religious right fanatic that annoyed me.

Date: 8/7/08 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eggwhite.livejournal.com
He did appear to be a cardboard cutout religious fanatic made mostly of cheese & ham, which certainly didn't help.

Date: 9/7/08 08:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] her-welshness.livejournal.com
It's a Dan Brown cut out and keep religious fanatic, choose from albino monk/assassin/modern zealous knight.

Date: 8/7/08 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzerain.livejournal.com
I'm suspecting that all that's stopping this becoming a cult classic is that the sets dont wobble enough.

really. having the Templars halfway through a series like this is inevitable... starting off with 'em indicates to me its downhill all the way from here, so I'm looking forward to some scriptwriting you'd get from teenage roleplayers, and inauthenticities in the rest of it that will set reenactors and archaeologists alike to foaming at the mouth....

This one's particularly ripe Camembert on the cheese scale, and I think by the end it may be sentient.

roll on next week.

Date: 10/7/08 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
My reaction to it was that if we had the Knights Templar as the murderers in week one, I can only assume that in a few weeks we'll be getting Captain Caveman.

Date: 9/7/08 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sea-cucumber.livejournal.com
I thought it was brilliant!
So cheesy and good :)

Date: 9/7/08 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com
I thought it was rather fun. The first five minutes were reasonably ok, although they've clearly got the guys from CSI doing their analysis for them as it all happens too quickly.

Next week we've got white supremacists, slave trading and the American elections. Its all going to be very silly.

Date: 9/7/08 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mageboltrat.livejournal.com
I see all you moaning about religious fanatics and templars... Was it just me that sat there and went... Er you can't remove someone's head with a European broadsword, and if you could, which you can't, wouldn't there be more arterial spray.

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