WTF?

2 Sep 2005 10:18 am
karohemd: by LJ user gothindulgence (Anubis)
[personal profile] karohemd
Can anyone tell me why the computer is supposed to be a "gay invention" and what this woman's problem is?
What's even more strange, the URL on the sign points to an activist group for equality...
And, if the computer is supposed to be a "Devil Machine", why is the sign advertising an internet site?

Date: 2/9/05 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarcriminal.livejournal.com
Well Turing was a homosexual. That homo disease catches you know.

And I have proof, I have a photo of him wearing my cowboy hat.

Date: 2/9/05 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarcriminal.livejournal.com
/sarcasm


I think it's supposed to be a joke....

Date: 2/9/05 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com
I got an 'Access Denied' on that link...

Date: 2/9/05 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
Odd. Works here. Does this work?
Image

Date: 2/9/05 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com
The main link works fine now. I guess was a temp glitch...

I think though that the sign is genuine (and intentionally sarcastic), rather than the image being photoshopped.

Date: 2/9/05 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raggedyman.livejournal.com
Considering that they link to a gay rights site [http://www.myage.us/site/link.htm] I think I am justified in smelling a photoshop

Date: 2/9/05 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
That's what I was wondering.

Date: 2/9/05 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borusa.livejournal.com
I think you are failing to detect humour here.

Date: 2/9/05 09:45 am (UTC)
cryx: me showing off hair done by a stylist from paris (Default)
From: [personal profile] cryx
yeah.. especially as she is carrying a rainbow flag as well...

Date: 2/9/05 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
It's really odd, though. She doesn't look like she's joking.
It does read like something the Onion could come up with.

Date: 2/9/05 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com
It looks like she's thinking "Much as I love marches, the blister on my left big toe is a bitch".

Date: 2/9/05 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
The site her placard is advertising says that all their members are 16-26. If she's under 26, I'm a dutchman!

Date: 2/9/05 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I think this is satire. Confusion is understandable as the photo appears to have been taken in the United States where such things are almost unknown.

Date: 2/9/05 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
It does read like something the Onion could come up with but it's not very well executed, I think.

Date: 2/9/05 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
No - Americans are only learning about satire now. When they get the training wheels off then we'll see some real progress.

If you look, the girl is wearing a 'I agreed with teh SJC' badge - the SJC is the Social Justice Council, an organisation so left-wing they had to base it in Canada for fear it would spontaneously combust in the US.

Date: 2/9/05 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarcriminal.livejournal.com
Me thinks some homosexuals are trying to make a point about famous and important ghey people.

You have to give us time Dave, we're just picking this up.

Date: 2/9/05 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Turing? Gay? I thought he had a wife called Maureen and six kids! You mean all that wasn't just more shoddy characterisation from Neal Stephenson?

Awight?

Date: 2/9/05 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonnyargles.livejournal.com
Image

Oh, and she's got a rainbow flag - which either means she's the serial killer I mentioned earlier, or she's SUPPORTING gay rights.

Date: 2/9/05 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarcriminal.livejournal.com
Maybe she's just calling computers gay.

You know, like the kids?

Date: 2/9/05 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarcriminal.livejournal.com
Holy shit:

http://www.answers.com/topic/alan-turing?method=8

Is there really such a thing as being sentenced to Estrogen treatments?

How does that make someone *less* gay?

Date: 2/9/05 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
*grins*

Is that what SJC stands for? I thought it was the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court who ruled gay marriage legal (which would make sense in context with the URL and other bits).

Date: 2/9/05 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akonken.livejournal.com
Incidentally, the Onion? American.

Date: 2/9/05 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akonken.livejournal.com
That was more directed at [livejournal.com profile] davywavy, although since I quoted you I can see how it was confusing.

Anyway, [some] Americans love irony. Check out the indie music scene sometime if you don't believe me. Or get one of various shirts to advertise your appreciation of tongue-in-cheek-ness.

Date: 2/9/05 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jholloway.livejournal.com
I like the fact that you're the guys confused about whether this is a joke or not, and your explanation for this is that Americans are bad at satire.

Satire in the US

Date: 2/9/05 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
It's like finding Penguins in the Amazon - it's so unexpected we have to do a double-take to make sure what we're seeing is real.

(Not to mention that the picture is shown out of context and, knowing what the Southern US is like, it's perfectly possible to believe that this isn't satire on first glance.)

Re: Satire in the US

Date: 2/9/05 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jholloway.livejournal.com
it's perfectly possible to believe that this isn't satire on first glance.)

Maybe for you -- the joke was perfectly obvious to me on first glance as, I suspect, to most people who saw it.

Re: Satire in the US

Date: 2/9/05 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jholloway.livejournal.com
Replying to my own comment -- pathetic.

Mind you, I'm not saying that it's obviously a joke because people like, oh, Fred Phelps don't exist. It's perfectly possible that someone might decide to ban computers because Alan Turing was teh f4g0t. I'm just saying that the rainbow flag is a dead giveaway. It's like a wink.

Which, in fact, is suggestive of weak satire, but there you go.

Re: Satire in the US

Date: 2/9/05 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jholloway.livejournal.com
Argh!

Well, OK, maybe not ban computers. That's going a bit far. But there are loonies everywhere. I used to walk to work past Frank Chu, who wanted to impeach Bill Clinton for crimes committed against the goverments of other galaxies. His placard was very professionally done.

I see this a lot, though: someone runs up against something like Game of Satan, or Creation Science Fair, totally misses that it's a joke, and then goes "well, it might have been real. You know what those people are like." I understand feeling defensive because you missed the gag, but come on.

Date: 2/9/05 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
And now I'm sitting here and trying to figure out if this comment of yours was ironic. ;oP

Date: 2/9/05 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jholloway.livejournal.com
Not ironic, but sarcastic. When I say "in the heezy," that's ironic. And when I have HamMurderer say it, it's like triple-ironic.

Date: 2/9/05 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ua-meruti.livejournal.com
Except of course Turing didn't invent the computer, Babbage did.
/pedantic

Date: 2/9/05 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borusa.livejournal.com
*Looks askance*

In truth, the computer was never really "invented", rather developed through several stages.

Things and people worth considering
Antikythera Machine
Mueller
Babbage
Turing
Zuse
Atanasoff

Also -
Napier,
Von Neumann

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