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4 Jul 2008 02:00 pm
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PVP celebrate the Fourth of July in style

Anyone up for making a cake in the shape of No. 10 for the 5th of November? ;o)

It's kind of odd that the UK actually doesn't have a real national holiday but then again, none of the events that are usually cause for celebration in other countries (independence from oppressors, toppling of the monarchy/ruling classes, (counter-)revolution. draft of a constitution, (re)unificaton etc.), so instead it's the day someone tried to blow up Parliament and it's not even a public holiday.

Date: 4/7/08 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devalmont.livejournal.com
There's always St George's day, that day where everyone is scared to celebrate in case someone thinks they're a member of the BNP or the Nazis.

Matter of fact, I can't even remember when that is.

Date: 4/7/08 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devalmont.livejournal.com
Now I come to think about it, we could always have a celebration of the date that Oliver Cromwell toppled the monarchy and became Lord Protector. That was a pretty interesting time by all accounts.

Date: 4/7/08 01:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 4/7/08 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jholloway.livejournal.com
23rd of April, I believe.

Date: 4/7/08 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
Two problems: St. George being the patron saint of just England and him being a saint, i.e. mixing in religion which is always a bad idea.

Date: 4/7/08 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxicpixie.livejournal.com
Hell, I'd quite like a Death to Tyrants Day! :)

Nathan, the Toxic Pixie

Date: 4/7/08 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devalmont.livejournal.com
Hehe. See my comment above, posted at the same time as yours. Obviously no royalists here then!

Date: 4/7/08 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxicpixie.livejournal.com
:D

What's this, what's this? We'll have no Royalism here! This is a Parliamentarian shop, for Parliamentarian people!

Nathan, the Toxic Pixie

Date: 4/7/08 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renfield286.livejournal.com
i like having a monarchy, it means were not a republic.

-=R286=-

Date: 4/7/08 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxicpixie.livejournal.com
Hmm. I'd far rather a republic than a monarchy, even a constitutional one. Sadly people seem to have this little king shaped hole in their brains (to quote Pratchett).

Nathan, the Toxic Pixie

Date: 4/7/08 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renfield286.livejournal.com
i like the constitutional monarchy system, makes us kind of unique.

i do respect the royal family, its most of parliament that i cant get on with.

-=R286=-

Date: 4/7/08 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxicpixie.livejournal.com
Hardly unique, more like most of the rest of Europe (at least the bits that didn't have the sense to execute their monarchs).

If you don't like Parliament, then get active & change it. Get lobbying :)

Nathan, the Toxic Pixie

Date: 4/7/08 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riksowden.livejournal.com
Fie!

Parliament cancelled Christmas!

Date: 4/7/08 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxicpixie.livejournal.com
No they didn't; they returned it to a religious celebration and removed the commercialised, vomiting in the street through over consumption aspect of Christmas.

Nathan, the Toxic Pixie

Date: 4/7/08 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angusabranson.livejournal.com
We could always start celebrating the day that either Thatcher or Blair left office!

Date: 4/7/08 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxicpixie.livejournal.com
Hmm, that's not a bad plan at all. See 'Death to tyrants day' above :D

Nathan, the Toxic Pixie

Date: 4/7/08 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
But that would entail making the day that Broon took over into a celebration. I can't see it catchingon.

Date: 4/7/08 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caseytalk.livejournal.com
The UK embassies overseas celebrate the Queen's birthday (which is not always her actual birthday) as the national day. It was on June 13 this year. I attended the one here in Tashkent. They don't mark the 5th of November outside the pool of UK nationals, I think.

Date: 4/7/08 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
That's the thing, the 5th of November isn't a National Holiday as such, it's just the closest to a national celebration.

Date: 4/7/08 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginasketch.livejournal.com
I think the entire world should have a day to celebrate that we all come from a common ancestor.

Now THAT will piss the BNP off.

Date: 4/7/08 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com
Are the BNP creationists, too? Oh dear. I thought they were just far right.
Ah, hang on you mean this in context of race, I assume, not necessarily that the BNP don't believe in evolution?

Date: 4/7/08 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginasketch.livejournal.com
I meant in context of race, yes.

Wouldn't surprise me if some of them were creationists though.:P

Date: 4/7/08 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Now come on that's a bit harsh, they're only frothing rabid racist Nazis. They're not creationists. ;-)

Date: 4/7/08 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devalmont.livejournal.com
Oops, the above was me, I hadn't noticed I'd been logged out.

Date: 4/7/08 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrthira.livejournal.com
Remember remember the fifth of november?

Date: 4/7/08 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renfield286.livejournal.com
a little bit.

-=R286=-

Date: 4/7/08 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shannachie.livejournal.com
Well, there's always Oct 3 for us Germans. And we could eat the Reichstag as a Black Forest Gateau with grey icing.

Date: 4/7/08 01:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 4/7/08 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] von-geisterhand.livejournal.com
Just as long nobody tries to make a flambé out of it and calls it a "Marinus cake". ;-)

Mmmmh, cake.

Date: 4/7/08 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whollyrandom.livejournal.com
... and yet we've undergone all of the events that you list, though arguably we didn't so much liberate ourselves from the Romans or the Danes so much as watch them get fed up with the miserable bloody weather and go home.

I think that as a nation we are weighed down heavily by our inbuilt belief that, all things considered, we're fairly crap and so shouldn't celebrate anything about ourselves for fear that others will remark upon and point out our crapness.

Date: 4/7/08 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxicpixie.livejournal.com
We have picked up a real 'low national self-esteem' complex since WW2. I suspect it's an over reaction to the previous two centuries of John Bull arrogance and the Yanks cutting the country off at the knees following the war.

Nathan, the Toxic Pixie

Date: 4/7/08 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renfield286.livejournal.com
its more of an embarrisment at our past i feel.
many of the public holiday other countrys have amount to "huzzah, we have got rid of them british b**tards". and "we are all like, erm.. yeah, sorry about the empire and all that"

-=R286=-

Date: 4/7/08 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxicpixie.livejournal.com
Yep. We're far too apologetic over things. We should celebrate a "Yeah, sucks to be you now" day.

Nathan, the Toxic Pixie

Date: 4/7/08 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renfield286.livejournal.com
i like it, where would you put it in the year though?

-=R286=-

Date: 4/7/08 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toxicpixie.livejournal.com
Same day as other countries Independence Day celebrations :)

Nathan, the Toxic Pixie

Date: 4/7/08 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renfield286.livejournal.com
its more of a hooray for the status quo.

-=R286=-

Date: 4/7/08 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeylover.livejournal.com
Queen's Birthday

St George's Day (for England, and then of course you have St Andrew's & St David's for the rest of GB)

One could celebrate the restoration of Charles II

Magna Carta would make a good celebration point (similar to your signing-of-the-constitution suggestion)

Date: 4/7/08 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ua-meruti.livejournal.com
We could celebrate the 4th of July (as opposed to July 4th of course) as being the day that we got rid of America.

Date: 4/7/08 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jholloway.livejournal.com
It would be kind of a hollow lie, though, wouldn't it, considering the relationship between the two nations?

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