karohemd: by LJ user gothindulgence (Anubis)
Ozzy ([personal profile] karohemd) wrote2008-01-10 01:29 pm
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Huh?

Artists 'must benefit from touts'

No, no, NO.
Michael Eavis has it right, touts need to be banned. And with touts I mean people/companies who buy large amounts of tickets for prestigious events with the sole purpose of selling them on at huge profit.
Private individuals should be allowed to sell a ticket if they can't attend the show but again, not for (ridiculous) profit. It would be easy to implement a rule on ebay that the starting price needs to be the official sale price. If they then get a nice profit out of it, fine but putting up tickets for a multiple of its actual value should be banned.

It won't be easy to implement that distinction but not doing anything about touts isn't the way to do it. Grrrr.

There've always been touts at gigs but the internet has exacerbated the practice. Take as an example the last Springsteen gig I went to, there were quite a few empty seats (I reckon at least 150, if not more) in the allegedly sold out venue. Those can't just have been people who suddenly got sick or didn't make it for whatever reason. Especially the "box" circle at the O2 was rather empty looking. Curiously, the real-life touts in the tube station were only looking for tickets themselves.

[identity profile] surje.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
the problem with gig tickets is that (if it's a popular gig) then the supply of the original item is already limited, and it's for a unique one off event not a resaleable item in itself.

i'd compare a gig ticket to a party invitation. the band sends out invitations to their friends (i.e. everybody), and the first ones to reply are allowed to come. (obviously money has to change hands but that's a separate issue). if someone later drops out, they can pass the invitation on to somebody else, but they have to let the host know who it was they invited.

i'd be happy to have to register verifiable details (i.e. passport or drivers license) and to have to receive the tickets to a postal address, and then provide the identification at the door. if i want to pass my tickets to someone else, i would return the tickets, and the other person could then buy if i sent them a unique key identifier, and they then they purchase the ticket, and then i get a credit. I can then sell the credit slip to anyone at face value (kind of like a book token) on ebay if i want.

i see no justfication for anyone bulk buying tickets. if i wanted to buy more than one ticket, i.e. for my immediate family, i.e. maximum of 6, then i wouldn't have a problem in getting a unique key identifer at the point of purchase and then each of the other people supplying their own authentification details later.

[identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com 2008-01-12 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I really like your proposal.

[identity profile] uglybuffy.livejournal.com 2008-01-13 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
I am in favour of this proposal too except for having to receive tickets to a postal address, as many times I have had a moment of "What!!? X are playing tomorrow/tonight?! I must log on to Ticketline immediately and select pick up with credit card".

[identity profile] surje.livejournal.com 2008-01-13 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
you like bands that have tickets available the day before a gig!? i'm lucky to hear about gigs months beforehand, or even hours into the selling when most of the tickets are already gone.

the mighty boosh tickets are sold out a year in advance.

[identity profile] uglybuffy.livejournal.com 2008-01-13 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Bands like Magik Markers playing in old men bowling clubs in Manchester tend not to sell out! Also picking them up on the night means I don't have to worry about losing the tickets!